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Old April 20th, 2008
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Thanks for the replies. This was just some brainstorming I was doing. Doesn't look like it will get off the ground. It seems vampires have been done to death, anyway. I just wanted to make them anti-romantic, and something that wouldn't come across as just another D20 type class.
How can vampires be done to death? They are probably the best NPC villain type and can be used in any setting without a problem.

But, brainstorming is always good.

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As far as reveling in one's sociopathy, that is what all the groups I've played with and seen playing have done. (Btw, the groups I've played with are far from being sociopaths--but I chose not to play with a group that actually might have been). It's kind of that mindset that I'm catering to. (D&D and AD&D always seemed like they were about "might equals right" to me, anyway). It's the same reason people play Grand Theft Auto video games; it's a release of sorts. However, looking at the BRP line, excluding CoC, it seems that the game makers for this system cater heavily to the heroic fantasy role playing crowd. Actually, CoC is kind of heroic, now that I think of it.
If CoC were a monster-hunting game then I'd enjoy it a lot more than the current mythos/sanity-crushing game.

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As far as vampire movies go, I forgot about the Lost Boys. Don't know how, I had to have seen it about a thousand times over the years. I didn't think 30 Days of Night was all that great, either. It's more of the types of vampires I'm going for. I picked the movies I did because they are really fresh in my head.
Sure. There are lots of vampire films that fade away into the background. Even films such as Blade are OK, they have a vampire mythos but just make them into CGI supermen which is a bit tiring after a while.

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When I'm talking about Gothic settings, I'm talking about Ravenloft and things like that. Places were everyone expects to encounter a vampire any given day--or night. I would like my setting to be more in the "real" world, where most people don't believe in vampires. And the vampires prefer to keep it that way.
I've never heard of Ravenloft and having looked it up on google it doesn't sound particularly good. The best book I've read about vampires ruling the world is The Empire of Fear by Brian Stableford which has a vampire ruling class being brought down by a hero. It's gothic in places but is very normal in others.

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Anyway, like I said, this was just stuff bumping around in my head for awhile, and wanted to know what other people's take on it was.
One of the things I 'll never stop talking about/discussing is vampires, so I think it's a great topic.

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The only stipulation I would've made was to make the vampires weak enough that any given healthy, adult mortal could be a major threat to them.
Weak vampires that a normal healthy mortal could take? No way. Vampires should be stronger than mortals, quicker than mortals and should not consider a normal mortal a threat, except in daytime.

Most vampire films/stories/myths have vampires as being physically impressive with particular weaknesses. Heroes traditionally kill vampires by exploiting those weaknesses or by ganging up on them.

I'm all for strong vampires. The film Monster Club has some nice scenes, particularly the one where Dracula wades through a number of attacking police with consumate ease.

Vampires suffering blood-starvation might be weak, depending on their age.
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