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Originally Posted by sladethesniper
Ah, but was it FUN? I love BRP as a game, but having played with some complete buffoons, the system does not guarantee a fun game. Likewise I have played exceptionally fun games using D20, Palladium games wonky rules, etc.
Granted, some systems make the fun easier/harder...but it the game master, fellow players and the adventure that make the GAME fun or not, the rules set can hinder or help, but claiming that 4E is an abomination of gaming and will doom all who play it is a bit disingenious...I am positive that there are some very good DM's out there that will have great and fantastic games using it, just as I am sure that there were people who had fun playing Phoenix Command in the early 90's (or not...it was the hardest and most unfriendly gaming system I've ever seen).
With that said, I won't be running any games in 4E, but I am sure that I will play in several games using it, and after the learning curve levels off, I may even have fun during it.
I am still a hardcore BRP fan, but bashing a system is rather pointless...a GM's skill and ability to craft a fun story is far more important.
-STS
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Of course you are right in your opinion that a good roleplaying game could be also a d20 game. I can make even a roleplaying game out of just randomly rolling some d6 or tossing a coin for combat. I can make a good roleplaying game when I push around marines a Space Hulk boardgame or the Alien boardgame from Leading Edge, provided I am good GM and have good players. No problem with this.
So maybe I was exaggerating with my assumption that the new 4e is not suited at all for roleplaying and I am sorry for this. But using the rule set for roleplaying will be extremely difficult, especially if you play it according to the vanilla rules. (eg. every player heals automatically max hitpoints once per day - without magic, and heals additionally as much wounds as he want - up to his healing surges - each 5 min
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But what 4e is instead? A damned good boardgame design. Cudos to the designers.