[Nightshade]

Originally Posted by Atgxtg

I think you are missing the point. Your whole argument in this thread and in the Kepping MAgic from overpowered fighters thread is that balanced power levels are needed to make an RPG work. THey are not.

Everything should not be power balanced just because SOME people only want to fight. That is them forcing their style of play upon everyone else, including game designers.

And I think game designs that don't pay attention to that are serving most of their end users badly. What more do you want out of me?

I never said that people should, or have to play one way, only that there are other ways to address problems outside of keeping everything balanced. Play balance is an illusion, anyway.

And I disagree with that, too, or that the other ways on the whole are good ideas. That's the bottom line here--I say what I do because I think its the case. I explain why. Repeating your disagreement doesn't change my opinion, because I've heard the reasons before. Its not new to me. Its not a surprise. And bluntly, it frequently sounds just like telling someone that the only reason they don't know this is because they haven't been exposed to it. Its perfectly possible to have seen these sorts of thing in operation and conclude that for most players they don't work. And when the response to that is to suggest that most players are immature, I know no way to read it _but_ to be setting the speaker's style above others. If that's not what you're intending, then I have to suggest in this thread you have done a poor job of what you are intending.