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Old December 17th, 2007
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And you'll note I've granted that one.
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True.

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Widely use and dominant are not the same thing.
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True, but it was dominant in europe for the non armored, non shield duels from 1500 to 1650. It died because of the apparition of lighter thrusting weapons that were faster and stronger, allowing to parry without loosing too much time and to present a smaller, less lethal surface to the adversary. This in itself lead to the new maneuvers we still know (the lunge is invented by Vigiani around 1620).

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Again, I've never questioned it occured; I'm questioning your statement that it was the default case.
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I told it never was dominant. For what I've seen, most kendo/kenjutsu techniques are dodges, not parry, but as I'm not a practicioner, I can't say much.

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Not all escrima/kali schools even teach two stick technique, however, which doesn't suggest to me its a default either.
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All the fights I've seen are, but I'm not an expert.

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Again, the examples of asian sword technique I've seen tell me quite the opposite. I wouldn't want to say how practical it is for weapons that do all (mace) or most (axe) of their damage with mass, because I simply don't know, but there slashing weapons where parrying is the default way to use them defensively by all evidence I have.
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I've never seen nor practiced with mace nor axe. And none of the books I've read are speaking of it, so same comment as you on those.
For the asian styles I've seen (not practiced), ie kendo and eskrima, it was either dodges, or 2 weapon fighting.


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It still keeps you alive, and dodging is not quick either, especially in armor.
That's for sure, with a metal armor, dodge is slow, but people wearing armor were, at least in europe, either carrying a shield (the ultimate parrying tool) or were using a 2 handed weapon. I don't know for other areas.

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