Games that use BRP rules that are not from Chaosium

[Joseph Paul]

I was flipping through an old copy of Morrow project when something caught my eye. Appently my edition (3rd) has a roleplaying expansion stapled into it. The credits for the expansion read:"With sincere thanks to the Chaosium and Tadashi Ehara, who made possible the form this expansion takes."

I looked more carefully and by golly the BRP skills system is there!
*Percentile rolls against specific skills
*Base skill percentage set
*Attribute modifiers to skill groups
*Experience check system

Any other non-Chaosium games that have incorporated BRP mechanics? I have heard that Earthdawn has many similarities and I know that Other Suns was submitted to Chaosium, failed to make production status, and was changed enough to avoid copyright and published by FGU.

Descended
Morrow Project 2nd ed
Other Suns
Drakar og Demonar
Gotterdammerung

BRP with the #s filed off
Blakes 7
Element Masters/Gatewar

Similar Mechanics
Earthdawn
Fifth Cycle
Twilight 2000 v1





Joseph Paul

[Sverre]

The swedish "Drakar og Demonar" is basically just translated BRP rules.

Sverre.

[Agentorange]

Well, there was a very popular Swedish RPG called Drakar Och Demoner. The first edition was pretty much Worlds of Wonder in Swedish . It's run to 6 editions and has changed a fair bit, how much resemblence to BRP it had by the 6th edition I don't know:
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~maxz/swerpg/drakar.html

It seems to have a fairly big following and spawned a fair few supplements:
http://www.riotminds.com/

I don't speak or read Swedish so I don't know how much on the last link is official publications, fan produced or what. Nice artwork though. In fact if they could get the artist who did the artwork on the supplements on the last link to do some artwork for BRP I'd be well happy.

[Enpeze]

Originally Posted by Agentorange

Nice artwork though. In fact if they could get the artist who did the artwork on the supplements on the last link to do some artwork for BRP I'd be well happy.

You mean the artwork of Paul Bonner? http://www.paulbonner.net/
Looks great. Better than a lot of the Chaosium stuff.

[Trifletraxor]

"The first real roleplaying game in Swedish to be released on the market was Drakar och Demoner (Dragons and Demons). Note that despite the name it is not a Dungeons & Dragons clone. The game system is that of Steve Perrin, basic roleplaying, used in Runequest and Call of Cthulhu. The first edition of Drakar och Demoner came in 1982 in a blue box and was a straight translation of Perrin's Magic World which was released together with Future World and Super World in the boxed set Worlds of Wonder (1982).

The basic set of rules, by many referred to as the black box, was later expanded by Drakar och Demoner EXPERT in 1985. Introducing several new occupations, skills and lots of magic, it also got rid of the d100 and used a d20 for all skill rolls. Now Drakar och Demoner was a game of it's own, bearing little resemblence with that of Steve Perrins."
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from the page linked above.
so... drakar och demoner does not resemble BRP anymore.
BAD CHOICE from the designers!

SGL.

[badcat]

A little known game from the early nineties called 'Fifth Cycle'. No credits, but it has quite a bit in common with RQ.

[jarulf]

Originally Posted by Agentorange

Well, there was a very popular Swedish RPG called Drakar Och Demoner.

I had WoW and bought this out of interest when it first came out, not knowing a thing about it. Imagine my surprise when I held in my hand a poorly translated version of BRP and the fantasy book from WoW.
I ran a short campaign with it, mostly because some of my players found English a bit of a challenge. I think it was the third edition that dropped the D100 for a D20, but we'd stopped using it by then.

[Agentorange]

Originally Posted by Enpeze

You mean the artwork of Paul Bonner? http://www.paulbonner.net/
Looks great. Better than a lot of the Chaosium stuff.

That'll be the chappy, very atmospheric artwork in my opinion. I especially like the one entitled Galtevar

[Atgxtg]

Harnmaster comes to mind. Although a different system, it has a lot in common with RQ. Enough so that my RQ group got felt very comfortable with it.

Another very BRPish game was Privateers & Gentelmen. THis was a minatures/RPG system for playing in the Age or Sail. The game system was probably closer to RQ than Other Suns was, down to including category modifiers ala RQ2. As a side bit of Trivia he game was written By Walter Jon Williams who went on to fame as a writer of cyberpunk science fiction.

[Agentorange]

Originally Posted by Atgxtg

Harnmaster comes to mind. Although a different system, it has a lot in common with RQ. Enough so that my RQ group got felt very comfortable with it.

Another very BRPish game was Privateers & Gentelmen. THis was a minatures/RPG system for playing in the Age or Sail. The game system was probably closer to RQ than Other Suns was, down to including category modifiers ala RQ2. As a side bit of Trivia he game was written By Walter Jon Williams who went on to fame as a writer of cyberpunk science fiction.

I never knew that ! I finished reading one of his short stories only the other day.