Why is BRP not that popular?

[Rurik]

Originally Posted by Simlasa

I don't think I've seen any trolls here... yet.

Ummm, have you seen our site admin?

[Nightshade]

Originally Posted by Simlasa

After reading through that RPG.net thread on drama points again, I am reminded that there were a lot of good ideas in there about how, when, and when not to use them... and I realized that the thing I specifically don't like about some manifestations of them is re-rolls and revisionist manipulation of the setting by players ('Oh look, I found a clue!').
But there are lots of ways to use them without crossing over into that sort of thing...

Well, honestly things like Dramatic Editing are a step farther along than simple luck points and the like; while I think they have a place in certain sorts of structured stylized settings (superhero games for example), they're well beyond what I've been talking about here.

Why do rerolls specifically bother you? As compared to other buffering uses?

I'd still prefer them to remain optional though.

I think there's nothing wrong with that; I just think it serves people that they're in the rules, and properly integrated by someone who understands the rules structure.

[Enpeze]

Originally Posted by Trifletraxor

Oh, now I got it. You were refering to my avatar, not me being banned from the MRQ forum 3 times. Stupid me...

Well I was just being "in character", you see, my trollkin PC has a INT of 9. Can't help it.

SGL.

Good acting.

[Atgxtg]

Sometimes I just can't understand the reasoning behind certain posts.


No such luck with this thread!

[soltakss]

Originally Posted by Trifletraxor

"Why is BRP not that popular?" is the biggest thread here on the forum, but most of the topics in the thread is not directly related to the original topic.

Whatever the reason is, one thing for sure - it's not because of some particular subrules about damage bonus, Strike Ranks, Hit Locations or anything else.

Maybe it's too deadly, maybe it is too open, maybe it's not structured enough.

Originally Posted by Trifletraxor

(Looks like we're only bitching about d&d being bigger than brp. )

Some things don't change.

In any case, BRP/D100/RQ combined will never be as big as D&D/D20 and so what? They are two different games. It's like asking why Star Wars isn't as big as Star Trek?

[Sorloc]

Originally Posted by Trifletraxor

Oh, now I got it. You were refering to my avatar, not me being banned from the MRQ forum 3 times. Stupid me...

Well I was just being "in character", you see, my trollkin PC has a INT of 9. Can't help it.

SGL.

Heh... I though I was the only one who took being banned from a forums (or a game) as a badge of honor...

Got banned from one particular game 3 times... Wouldn't go back because I wouldn't promise to not make a clone of the GM's pet player's character (who got to take advantage of every nasty house rule that came along).

[Atgxtg]

Probably the real reason* It's too OLD.

Unless ypu are a CoC fan, you'd have to be pretty old to remember BRP products-older than the average gamer.

If we took music or TV shows from the early 80s I doubt they would be propular with the average gamer today either.

How many of the under 20 crowd are on this forum?

[badcat]

So maybe the key is to de-identify gaming with pop culture. God knows I see all ages at chess clubs...

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by badcat

So maybe the key is to de-identify gaming with pop culture. God knows I see all ages at chess clubs...

You missed my point. You see all ages at Chess clubs because Chess has been on the shelves continually. In RPG circles the same is true of D&D, in one form or another.

But it is hard for a 15 year old to pick up and play an RPG that hasn't been on the shelves for 20 years.

[Simlasa]

Originally Posted by Atgxtg

You missed my point. You see all ages at Chess clubs because Chess has been on the shelves continually. In RPG circles the same is true of D&D, in one form or another.

But it is hard for a 15 year old to pick up and play an RPG that hasn't been on the shelves for 20 years.

I tend to agree with this...

Like Soltakss I really don't think the issue has much to do with the rules themselves, I think they stand up well to anything that's come along in recent years... some people aren't gonna like them no matter what and that's fine... if it was a matter of trendy mechanics being popular D&D oughtta be long gone.

It's pretty strong evidence though, that ,except for COC, I haven't seen a Chaosium product on a store shelf in a long long time. Stormbringer never had much of a retail presence at any of the stores I hung out at.
I'm not inclined to think that just bringing out the new edition is going to suddenly create a legion of rabid fans... and there are some ways in which I think BRP is not a 'for the masses' sort of flavor... but having it on the shelves again will at least give people a ready way to buy it and check it out.