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I'll point out to Charlie that the index has some issues, but it's not something that can be fixed in a proofread.

Indexes are usually generated by the page layout software, or at least they should be.
Yeah, I play with InDesign, but whats produced can sometimes be odd. What got me on this though was thinking that there might be something that should be on p32 that talks about Fate Points, and for some reason its not there (perhaps a link to a text box that is in the "paste up" area of the DTP program that was supposed to be inserted but wasn't).

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Old January 23rd, 2008
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Some questions comments from the Superpowers chapter

page 157 Extra Energy and Extra Hitpoints. These two powers seem a little off kilter to me. One Powerpoint can get you either 10 extra Powerpoints or one Extra Hitpoint. I could have sworn that extra hitpoints in superworld were 2 to one ratio. Looking at other defensive powers like Armor it seems like the 1 to 1 ratio for hitpoints isn't worthwhile.

My question is on the Character Failing Benefits on page 142. Under the special weakness damage section 1D6 points of damage per round is listed giving 1+1 power budget reward. I'm imagining that's supposed to be just a +1 yes?
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I've got a copy of edition zero - don't know if anyone has commented on these two points, but first, are there supposed to be two separate rules for knockback? (page 197 and page 226). Although similar, they are not identical.

Also, a typo on page 300 that made me smile - I always thought Captain Nemo sailed 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, but apparently he was exaggerating....
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Some questions comments from the Superpowers chapter

page 157 Extra Energy and Extra Hitpoints. These two powers seem a little off kilter to me. One Powerpoint can get you either 10 extra Powerpoints or one Extra Hitpoint. I could have sworn that extra hitpoints in superworld were 2 to one ratio. Looking at other defensive powers like Armor it seems like the 1 to 1 ratio for hitpoints isn't worthwhile.
It was 2:1 in the later, full featured Superworld; the one in Worlds of Wonder doesn't appear (from quick examination) to have it at all. I tend to agree that 1/1 is probably fairly pointless. There are, however, good reasons why the Powerpoint yield is so much greater.
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It was 2:1 in the later, full featured Superworld; the one in Worlds of Wonder doesn't appear (from quick examination) to have it at all. I tend to agree that 1/1 is probably fairly pointless. There are, however, good reasons why the Powerpoint yield is so much greater.
In WoW, Energy was bought at 10:1, but since it used the old Hit Points=CON and CON was bought at 1:1 there was probably no reason to buy HP. Just buy CON. I suppose adding it in a 2:1 would have worked.
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The 10 to 1 ratio on MP seems a bit too powerfull. I've got a few character combinations I'm stating up right now. One is going to be a straight up heroic Magic user, the other a Magic User / Superpower hybrid. I'll compare the two of them side by side.... my gut feeling is that 10mp for one power point is a little much. 5 for one seems more reasonable to me... and even then quite potent when combined with a Spellcaster.
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The 10 to 1 ratio on MP seems a bit too powerfull. I've got a few character combinations I'm stating up right now. One is going to be a straight up heroic Magic user, the other a Magic User / Superpower hybrid. I'll compare the two of them side by side.... my gut feeling is that 10mp for one power point is a little much. 5 for one seems more reasonable to me... and even then quite potent when combined with a Spellcaster.
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Some of these systems are not immediately compatible with one another, while others are easily used side-by-side.
It's one of those issues I'm clarifying and making explicit - the powers types are not balanced against one another.

It's stated in the text, but I'm making it front and center.

If you, as a GM, feel that two power types are unbalanced against one another, it's advised to use only one of them at a time.

It's just like equipment - a character in hide armor with a club is not balanced against a character in energy armor with a plasma rifle.
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The 10 to 1 ratio on MP seems a bit too powerfull.
Unless Jason has seriously cut back on the expenditure needed for powers, anything less is not good enough; Superworld characters could burn through an enormous amount of energy very quickly in my experience. As Jason notes, not all the metaphysics systems are going to play well together, and I suspect the powers system is going to overshadow most of the others if used in combination with them.
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A quick query about the Cooperative skill rolls on pg.173.

The benefit of having someone help you is that it adds 10% to your roll (or 15/20% for special/critical success).

However, that means somone with a very low skill level, let's say 5%, who is aiding you could be adding 10% or even 20% to a score.

This seems wrong to me. Intuitively, I'd argue that someone with virtually no skill is probably a hinderance to someone with skill. "Will you stop trying to help me?! You're just getting in the way!"

Would it not be wiser to say that only someone with a reasonable amount of skill (say minimum of 10%) can potentially aid in a cooperative skill roll. If they get a critical success and add 20%, that's just a fluke that should be allowed as it will rarely happen.
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A quick query about the Cooperative skill rolls on pg.173.

The benefit of having someone help you is that it adds 10% to your roll (or 15/20% for special/critical success).

However, that means somone with a very low skill level, let's say 5%, who is aiding you could be adding 10% or even 20% to a score.

This seems wrong to me. Intuitively, I'd argue that someone with virtually no skill is probably a hinderance to someone with skill. "Will you stop trying to help me?! You're just getting in the way!"

Would it not be wiser to say that only someone with a reasonable amount of skill (say minimum of 10%) can potentially aid in a cooperative skill roll. If they get a critical success and add 20%, that's just a fluke that should be allowed as it will rarely happen.
The assumption is that the higher-skilled character is essentially saying to the relatively unskilled character "Okay... you don't have much skill... but here's exactly what you need to do if you want to help me."

It could also be regarded as offloading "busywork", enabling the higher-skilled character to focus on execution of the primary task at hand. For example, a master chef might ask for unskilled assistance chopping or performing some routine task while he or she works on the stuff requiring a high degree of expertise.

The low chance of a character with a skill of 10% or under successfully being able to contribute to a cooperative task is the balancing factor.

If the GM feels it's not plausible, then he or she is free to rule that a character without an appreciable skill cannot aid in a cooperative task, as is stated in the first sentence of that section.
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