Typos, Errata , Corrections, and Clarifications

[drohem]

I noticed on the vehicle table that for Air Vehicles that the vehicles Hit Point score is exactly the same as their SIZ score, whereas with all other vehicles on the list their HP score is different than their SIZ score.

Was this intentional for air vehicles?

[Jason Durall]

Originally Posted by drohem

I noticed on the vehicle table that for Air Vehicles that the vehicles Hit Point score is exactly the same as their SIZ score, whereas with all other vehicles on the list their HP score is different than their SIZ score.

Was this intentional for air vehicles?

Yes. Generally, vehicles or objects larger than characters have HP = SIZ, sometimes adjusted upwards by quality of construction or other admittedly nebulous factors. HP are rarely modified downwards below SIZ.

It's a judgment call, but my rationale was that aircraft, unlike ground ships and battleships, are often as light as possible, and so their HP are equal to SIZ, while denser, heavier vehicles have higher HP due to structural reenforcement, especially thick hulls, etc.

[drohem]

Originally Posted by Jason Durall

Yes. Generally, vehicles or objects larger than characters have HP = SIZ, sometimes adjusted upwards by quality of construction or other admittedly nebulous factors. HP are rarely modified downwards below SIZ.

It's a judgment call, but my rationale was that aircraft, unlike ground ships and battleships, are often as light as possible, and so their HP are equal to SIZ, while denser, heavier vehicles have higher HP due to structural reenforcement, especially thick hulls, etc.

That's cool, and I had the same thought process about air vehicles as well. I kind of thought that was what was intended, but just wanted to make sure.

Thanks!

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by Jason Durall

Yes. Generally, vehicles or objects larger than characters have HP = SIZ, sometimes adjusted upwards by quality of construction or other admittedly nebulous factors. HP are rarely modified downwards below SIZ.

So I take then that dirigibles would be the exception with HP lower than SIZ?

Originally Posted by Jason Durall

It's a judgment call, but my rationale was that aircraft, unlike ground ships and battleships, are often as light as possible, and so their HP are equal to SIZ, while denser, heavier vehicles have higher HP due to structural reenforcement, especially thick hulls, etc.

Ah...by density. So tanks being half made of dense armor plating have more HP.

[drohem]

Originally Posted by Atgxtg

So I take then that dirigibles would be the exception with HP lower than SIZ?

Dirgible is listed with SIZ and HP as 100.

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by drohem

Dirgible is listed with SIZ and HP as 100.

Big bag of hydrogen has more HP that a Jet fighter?

[Jason Durall]

Originally Posted by Atgxtg

Big bag of hydrogen has more HP that a Jet fighter?

It's more the gondola (passenger/cargo compartment) and engines that have more HP.

There are three different types of dirigible; the airbag blimp style; a semi-rigid one; and a fully rigid one.

The stats in BRP are a sort of median value representing all three types.

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by Jason Durall

It's more the gondola (passenger/cargo compartment) and engines that have more HP.

There are three different types of dirigible; the airbag blimp style; a semi-rigid one; and a fully rigid one.

The stats in BRP are a sort of median value representing all three types.

I sort of figured that. But it is still a ballon. Poke some holes and it's going to get taken out fast. Especially when most are filled with hydrogen. Maybe something like lowering it's "major wound" score to 25 or so?



BTW, Tanks seem to be a bit vulnerable to small arms. I mentioned this elsewhere, but perhaps "impales" and critical against vehicles should only apply after armor? After all tanks aren't going to suffer from blunt trauma from a shotgun or elephant gun the way a person would.

That could be an "armored" special, meaning that it would only apply to vehicles that have been specifically armored, like Tanks, APCs, and Battleships, but not to vehicles that get their APs from bulk and engine like 18 Wheelers, Cruise ships, and Automobiles.

I can see a "sortscar" getting toasted with a "impale" or critical from a "submachinegun" , but it should only skuff of the paint on even a "vintage" tank.

[SDLeary]

Originally Posted by Atgxtg

I sort of figured that. But it is still a ballon. Poke some holes and it's going to get taken out fast. Especially when most are filled with hydrogen. Maybe something like lowering it's "major wound" score to 25 or so?

Um... Airships haven't been filled with Hydrogen in quite a long time. Helium is the preferred gas, and has been since a famous airship went down in Lakehurst, NJ. At least here in the US. In fact, it was preferred even before that incident, here in the US.

Now... poke them with holes and they will fall, yes. The hole(s) would have to be pretty large or numerous to cause this to be catastrophic. Rigid and semi-rigid airships also tend to have more than one gas bag, so you would need large or multiple hits in multiple areas, so I can see 100 hp because of their overall size(area not mass) and fragility.

Jason... Am I correct in assuming that for vehicles and other objects that SIZ=mass? (I don't have 0 yet, so don't have access to your charts).

SDLeary

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by SDLeary

Um... Airships haven't been filled with Hydrogen in quite a long time. Helium is the preferred gas, and has been since a famous airship went down in Lakehurst, NJ. At least here in the US. In fact, it was preferred even before that incident, here in the US.

Now... poke them with holes and they will fall, yes. The hole(s) would have to be pretty large or numerous to cause this to be catastrophic. Rigid and semi-rigid airships also tend to have more than one gas bag, so you would need large or multiple hits in multiple areas.

SDLeary

Modern airships don't have an internal structure. And while Helium is used in all modern airships, it was used almost exclusively in US airships until after WWII. The Hindenburg disaster didn't cause a change in the preferred gas. It was the preferred gas a lot earlier. At least by the time the of the Akron disaster. The US refused to sell Helium to the Germans, since at the time airships were still used by the military, and the US was not on good terms with Germany politically.

The Hindenburg was actually designed to be used with Helium.