Typos, Errata , Corrections, and Clarifications

[Jason Durall]

I'm turning in my own final batch of changes to the manuscript, having red-inked a tape-bound copy of the manuscript until it's noticeably gained weight (I joke, but not by much).

Many of the edits are cosmetic and aren't to be worried about, but I'm calling upon the collected wisdom and kindness of those of who who've got copies to alert me to any items that would fall under the category of typos, errata, corrections, or clarification.

Note that I'm not really wanting to turn this thread into a debate about why a particular mechanic works a certain way, or what would be better (unless it's a minor fix), or arguing the philosophy of the rules.

However, if there's anything we can get in at the last minute, here's the place to do so.

For example, for some reason the Ammo column is blank on the Energy Weapons table. Not sure why, but it is a definite error. However, the discussion of whether the Energy Sword should do Impaling versus Bleeding specials... that's not really what I'm after here (even though I've made that change).

Thanks!

[drohem]

This got buried in another thread, but I wanted to bring to your attention. This is concerning catergory modifiers and skill improvement:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atgxtg
Don't they still add to improvement rolls? That was probably their biggest impact .

Yes and no. This edition uses the Experience Bonus which is half the Intelligence characteristic. If you have earned an experience check, then you roll and add your Experience Bonus to the roll. If the roll exceeds your current skill level, then you increase the skill by 1d6 or 3 percentiles.

Under the Skill Improvement section, it doesn't provide an optional rule that utilizes the optional characteristic category modifiers rule. I think that this was probably just a mistake in not including this extension of the category modifier optional rule.

Personally, I will be using the Skill Category Modifiers. Therefore, the skill category modifier for a particular skill will be added to an experience roll.

Jason-
Was this omitted for space reasons, or simply overlooked in compiling the book?

[Zane]

Odd, I was just about to ask where to submit these.

From the weapons tables

Shotgun, Sawn-Off
Damage: 4D6/1D6/ (should read 4D6/1D6)
Range: 10/20/ (should read 10/20 or to match CoC it should really be 5/10)

Is the STR requirement for a Sniper Rifle really 5! That is lower than a sporting rifle. Additionally what round are you figuring will give it a 2D10+4, as that seems odd. It is to high for a 7.62mm (M21 or M24 at 2D6+4), and to low for a .50 caliber M82A1 at 2D10+1D8+6).

What caliber is the sporting rifle considered to be? I would have expected .30-06 which is 2D6+4 rather than 2D6.

I'm currently upgrading existing gun tables, starting with the CoC 5.6 book to include the material given in this book, so might have more errors. I also have a couple questions I'll put in a gun specific thread.

Zane

[Chaot]

Haven't had a chance to give the book a good reading yet. I keep repeating to myself that the weekend is coming!

Still, pg. 294 and 323, the pictures have the same caption. Something about players foiling the GM.

There's also the typo in the Afterword and the MOV issue with Horses.

[Zane]

Originally Posted by Chaot

Still, pg. 294 and 323, the pictures have the same caption. Something about players foiling the GM.

I suspect this is placeholder text, at least I hope so, as I swear half the pictures in the book have the exact same caption.

[Chaot]

Hmm, I think what we're seeing is going to be what we get if there are no corrections. I do agree though, flipping through it seemed like there were a few duplicated captions. I just mentioned the ones I knew of for sure.

[Zane]

Originally Posted by Zane

Is the STR requirement for a Sniper Rifle really 5! That is lower than a sporting rifle. Additionally what round are you figuring will give it a 2D10+4, as that seems odd. It is to high for a 7.62mm (M21 or M24 at 2D6+4), and to low for a .50 caliber M82A1 at 2D10+1D8+6).

What caliber is the sporting rifle considered to be? I would have expected .30-06 which is 2D6+4 rather than 2D6.

Atgxtg just pointed out in a PM that CoC 5.6 lists the M82 as 2D10+4, which is the same as "Rifle, Sniper" in the new book. My mistake, I forgot they had that listed under Assault Rifles in CoC (though the range has increased). The 2D10+1D8+6 number is from the original printing of Delta Green, which in turn lists the info as being from V1.4 of the "Weapons Compendium" which was published by Pagan Publishing in 1995 (I wish I had a copy of that book). I really like the info in Delta Green as they give the damage info for most types of ammo. I'm also more inclined to trust them as a source on this rather than Chaosium's existing books.

Additionally I asked one of the local gun nuts what caliber he would consider a "Sporting Rifle" to be and he said .30 caliber which is the 2D6 listed in the table.

So while I'm still wondering if the STR requirement is correct, it looks like the damage numbers are correct.

[frogspawner]

I trust you already got the one I mentioned a while ago (from the images) about Chapter Eleven being called "Creatures" on the contents page, but referred to as "Bestiary" on p16 & p19 (and maybe elsewhere)?

[Jason Durall]

Originally Posted by Zane

Atgxtg just pointed out in a PM that CoC 5.6 lists the M82 as 2D10+4, which is the same as "Rifle, Sniper" in the new book. My mistake, I forgot they had that listed under Assault Rifles in CoC (though the range has increased). The 2D10+1D8+6 number is from the original printing of Delta Green, which in turn lists the info as being from V1.4 of the "Weapons Compendium" which was published by Pagan Publishing in 1995 (I wish I had a copy of that book). I really like the info in Delta Green as they give the damage info for most types of ammo. I'm also more inclined to trust them as a source on this rather than Chaosium's existing books.

Additionally I asked one of the local gun nuts what caliber he would consider a "Sporting Rifle" to be and he said .30 caliber which is the 2D6 listed in the table.

So while I'm still wondering if the STR requirement is correct, it looks like the damage numbers are correct.

Though I've got DG and the Weapons Compendium, I chose to refer to Chaosium manuscripts and existing values as the first source where possible.

The STR requirement for the sniper rifle assumes the use of either a tripod or a prone position. I suspect that the footnote disappeared when Charlie integrated the tables into the layout.

[Atgxtg]

Ah, so I take it that the "official" BRP rating for the M82 Barrett .50 cal is still 2D10+4?

Phew. Now I can take 30 AP off the tanks. Look like the M1A2 won't be Hulk-proof after all.