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[badcat]

It seems (or maybe I am just wearing rose tinted glasses right now) that the red hardcover edition of RQ2 was pretty typo-free. Granted it took a couple of tries, but there you go.

Also, my 'new' used copy of Dark Conspiracy 1e seems to be very low in typos and mistakes. I am impressed. Indeed, it is one of the cleanest 1st ed. rpg rulebooks I have seen.

So there are a few exceptions to the rule. But yeah, definitely a word to the wise about typos and rpg books.

[Lord Twig]

A few typos here and there, or a missed word, are no big deal. As long as the fundamental rules are not broken.

[Atgxtg]

I woundn't say "pages and pages of errata". Most of the errata for RQ2 stuff was fairly light. The addtional armor types and elimination of the D12 accounted for a good chunk of it.

It wasn't anything that would fundamentally disrupt a campaign. MOre like filling in some of the blanks.

THe rq3 errata was a bit more, but it also looks like it was more of a change/upgrade than errata.

[soltakss]

The RFQ2 book I have has 2 pages of errata inside the covers. Add to that the errata in RQ Companion and that's pages and pages. That's ignoring the errata they didn't publish ...

Every game has errata because they are complicated and people make mistakes.

[badcat]

Rose tinted glasses...

This Dark Conspiracy book is amazing...I am sure typos and such are there, but I haven't noticed any yet, and that is saying something all by itself. You know, though, what I REALLY get annoyed about are $25+ books from certain companies (like one named for a small furry mammal) that crack and fall apart as soon as you start reading them. Now THAT is something that use to be a lot less common...

[Rurik]

Originally Posted by badcat

Rose tinted glasses...

This Dark Conspiracy book is amazing...I am sure typos and such are there, but I haven't noticed any yet, and that is saying something all by itself. You know, though, what I REALLY get annoyed about are $25+ books from certain companies (like one named for a small furry mammal) that crack and fall apart as soon as you start reading them. Now THAT is something that use to be a lot less common...

In the interest of fairness there hasn't been a problem I'm aware of with the bindings of the small furry mammal books. They had some binding problems when they first switched to printing in house 'cause none of them knew how to bind the books, but they have been good about replaceing any books that customers aren't happy with. I prefer the original outsourced printings over the in house (they lay open flat very nicely and hold up well). The in house jobs are pretty sturdy, with heavier cover and page stock and are much better bound now then when they started.

There is plenty to gripe about with SFMRQ (Small Furry Mammal RuneQuest) without harping on things that aren't really a problem.

For comparison my Green Ronin Thieve's World Books, with their twice as many words per page, clean, easy to read layout and formatting and near flawless editing, also cost a pretty penny and one of my books is having binding problems after very light use.

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by soltakss

The RFQ2 book I have has 2 pages of errata inside the covers. Add to that the errata in RQ Companion and that's pages and pages. That's ignoring the errata they didn't publish ...

Every game has errata because they are complicated and people make mistakes.

At lot of the companion errata is reprinting the same stuff from the 2 page (small type) insert from RQ2, and in a larger typeface.

And compared to some games, it isn't that bad. The D&D erratta is horrible. Of course, if WotC didn't include every punction error in the errata it would only be bad.

There is also something to be said about what the errata covers. Sometimes is typos, sometimes clarifications, sometimes rule changes etc. But with RQ2 most of the changes were relatively minor. There really isn't much of a problem is you are using a D12 instead of 2d6. Not like changing the core game mechanics in the errata.

I think a lot of errata comes from not playing the games anymore. THe gamers end up becoming beta testers. Or becuase the guys who wrote the game just assumed that the players would do what they did. I recall some old games I had where the authros forgot to tell you to roll 3d6 for stats. As the tables with bonuses went well over 20, it was hard to tell if they wanted you to roll 3d6, 2d10 or what.

[badcat]

Well. Individual experience varies, Rurik. And it is worth 'griping about' because it is a real problem. For anybody that still buys their books, that is.

[Atgxtg]

It can't be any worse than my Games Workshop edition of Strombringer. You could actually hear the binding snap and see pages fall out the moment you opened the book.

And that was with every copy that my RPG group bought.

[Enpeze]

Yep. the GW version of stormbringer was extremly bad bound. I had to put every single page of the book in a seperate clearsight plastic bag, because the loose sheets were so annoying.