The Green (discussion)

[Puck]

Sounds interesting any details? love to hear about it. What are trodon?

[Puck]

Soltakss wrote: Something like the Green cries out for dinosaurs as it is the perfect habitat for them.

I agree. One thing I was thinking of is a dinosaur-like lizard shaped much like a hippo.... kind of like a dewback with a long tail. The river people could ride these (they would have humped backs that protruded from the water when they swim). More commonly they could harness them to their boats. They would be great swimmers but have stumpy clawed legs that they could climb up on the roots with if they needed to. Don't know what to call them...maybe humpback lizards. There are several others ideas but maybe I will just post these on the wiki if there is time.

Dinosaurs would be great though.

[Puck]

On Mamprusi

Originally posted by Soltakss:

Sounds good, but they'd have to be fairly far from human settlements otherwise the humans would kill them, unless they were taboo as well.

I was kind of thinking that they would be competing with the trogod for human trade as well as fishing rights. I was thinking that they were a bit like a cross between Runequest baboons, newtlings and possibly ducks(ouch), (in character not appearence), dealing with humans where profitable and necessary. Very attached to the water, they could, like the real life swamp monkey, swim very well and hold their breaths for long periods of time. They would be as at home in the water as on the roots and trees. Some may even work with the river-men or become player characters.

I think other apes or monkeys are definately open for ideas. The mamprusi could take on a far sinister aspect further down the Green. I like the runner idea and was thinking of the freelings or other tree humans having monkeys as pets or familiars. Any thoughts?

[rust]

There could be some kind of (unwritten, ancient ?) "agreement" between the
Mamprusi and the humans that allows for conflicts between individuals, but
bans wars - perhaps something based on certain goods or services only the
Mamprusi can provide, and would withhold in the case of a war ?

Deeper in The Green, this kind of cooperation between Mamprusi and humans
would not exist, and therefore hostilities would be more likely and common ...

Besides, these Mamprusi ... they would make an interesting addition to my
water world colony, perhaps as "guest workers" or thelike ... originally I
wanted to avoid the introduction of humanoid aliens, but this race is really
a temptation ...

[Atgxtg]

Originally Posted by Puck

Sounds interesting any details? love to hear about it. What are trodon?

Trodon were a species of carnivorous dinosaurs. There were about feet long, and are noted for having very large brains for their size. Their brain size was such that they might have been more intelligent than most mammals. Had they not died out, they might have evolved into something sentient.

[soltakss]

I was thinking about orcs yesterday. My gaming has mostly been Gloranthan with a bit of Cthulhu and some SciFi or SciFantasy and I haven't played D&D for 20 years or so, so I don't play or GM with Orcs.

That's probably why I'd like to include them in a setting because, to me, they are a new and interesting species.

Of course, I'm sick to death of Storm-Worshipping Iron-Age Barbarians.

[Puck]

Would the Grulks work? What about the mountain goblins(I was going to leave these out of the green)? There are quiet a variety There are the pig nosed images from d+d, the green nutjobs of warhammer and then the Tolkien type(no fantasy game has ever really come close to bringing these gutteral speaking monster justice). What type were you thinking of?

[Puck]

Trodon were a species of carnivorous dinosaurs. There were about feet long, and are noted for having very large brains for their size. Their brain size was such that they might have been more intelligent than most mammals. Had they not died out, they might have evolved into something sentient.

This could kind of go places...What about making the lizard men just intelligent dinosaurs? Perhaps smaller ones like velocirapters. How long were the Trodon?

[Puck]

Rust, I was thinking, would it be helpful to start a new wiki and a new thread for a sci-fi Green? I was going to spend time and effort on the fantasy Green, but there are some ideas that would work very well for one and not to well for the other. For instance the Sci-fi green would have psionics or telepathy instead of magic. The pirates or marauders from a different world could be using grav-boats or even sky sleds instead of ships and boats. You could also place the green in the star charts.

Anything that works in the Fantasy green could be cut and pasted into the Sci-fi Green. The two Greens could develop alongside one another and yet independently. I think this may be very helpful when the rules come out and the magic and cults start to develop.

One issue I that kind of brought this to mind was the Ashuli (very well done by the way I love the back story mystery to the player stuff).
I was thinking of using a very similar concept for a minor race called a Tree Kraken (for lack of a better term). They would be very similar to the Ashuli except they would live in fresh water (pools beneath the limbs)and breath air for long periods of time. Sometimes they would climb to the tree level with their tentacles and catch prey from above or even lurk in the Sloughs. They were(like the Ashuli) to be sort of intelligent. But they were very, very evil. Cthulhu evil.

[rust]

Troodon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just take a look at that "Dinosauroid" which might have evolved from the
Troodon (near the bottom of the page) ...