BRP Rules at the Printer

[Al.]

Originally Posted by Pnick

Jason, why wasn't a hardback produced? Surely the costs couldn't have been that prohibitive.

Coz:

Another d100 game is published in lots of (small) hardbacks and this has upset some of Chaosium's core market

A sizeable number of the contributors copies are being sent overseas and the shipping on hardbacks would bankrupt Chaosium

Hardbacks use more tree than soft and the sheer size of BRP means that its use of trees is already ecologically unsustainable

Hardback covers are harder to print

Wasted hardback covers waste more cash

Hardbacks take up more room in warehouses (and Chaosium have still got all of those CCGs to store)

Risk of lawsuits from parents of players whose GM have beaten them around the head with a hardback for stupidity in play

The Chaosium dudes do not like hardback books


I too am not privy to Chaosium's thought processes but I'm not employed by them so I can freely engage in frivolous speculation

It whiles away the hours waiting for my lovely book to arrive


Al

[Lord Shag]

hi guys

this specifically relates to dredj"s assertion that BRP ships from us amazon on or around the 4th june. However the earliest available date i could find on the site was june 20th? what gives?

[TheShadow]

Originally Posted by Trifletraxor

Talked to Charlie Krank at the Tentacles Con. A hardback will be produced, but at a later time.

SGL.

Crap. Now I'm really torn over whether to buy now or wait for the hardcover.

[Fergo113]

Originally Posted by TheShadow

Crap. Now I'm really torn over whether to buy now or wait for the hardcover.

The Chaosium web site will have it as a PDF download, so that's an alternative.

I also want a copy in hardcover but have already ordered the softcover version. I'll probably get it in hardcover later as well when it comes out.

[Vile]

Don't know what the amazon.com is like, but the amazon.co.uk is infamous for promising to deliver stuff before it's printed. IIRC the Chaosium site says something about them expecting to take delivery of the books on the 23rd of June. They may be faster at sending them out, but surely Amazon isn't going to get their copies before Chaosium?

[fmitchell]

Originally Posted by Vile

Don't know what the amazon.com is like, but the amazon.co.uk is infamous for promising to deliver stuff before it's printed. IIRC the Chaosium site says something about them expecting to take delivery of the books on the 23rd of June. They may be faster at sending them out, but surely Amazon isn't going to get their copies before Chaosium?

Amazon.com does the same thing. The most charitable interpretation is that they get an initial estimate and never revise it (at least for games and other specialty books; maybe they watch Steven King's publication dates on a second-to-second basis). A somewhat less charitable interpretation is that they simply let the initial estimate stand to draw in business.

I've also preordered games from Amazon and seen them in stores weeks before Amazon gets around to preparing the order for shipment. In at least one case (a Paizo product, I think) I cancelled my order after a month passed, and bought it online somewhere else.

[frogspawner]

Originally Posted by TheShadow

Crap. Now I'm really torn over whether to buy now or wait for the hardcover.

Originally Posted by Fergo113

The Chaosium web site will have it as a PDF download, so that's an alternative.

"Wait"?! "Alternative"??!! Get 'em all! Give your spares to ex-D&D3.5-ers...

Buy, buy, BUY! - bye-bye.

[Dredj]

Originally Posted by fmitchell

Amazon.com does the same thing. The most charitable interpretation is that they get an initial estimate and never revise it (at least for games and other specialty books; maybe they watch Steven King's publication dates on a second-to-second basis). A somewhat less charitable interpretation is that they simply let the initial estimate stand to draw in business.

I've also preordered games from Amazon and seen them in stores weeks before Amazon gets around to preparing the order for shipment. In at least one case (a Paizo product, I think) I cancelled my order after a month passed, and bought it online somewhere else.

I've had the same thing happen to me where Amazon was very late in getting a product I wanted for shipment. But in the last couple of years, things I've been ordering through Amazon have been coming to me quite quickly. In fact, they usually get the items out before the posted release date. They can only go by the publisher's best estimate of when a product is released. And with millions of products, they can't keep track of all the changing release dates unless the product is going to be super-popular.

I also like the fact that not only is Chaosium going to get the money that's due them, but I get to save money, as well! So I'm going to defend my decision to go through Amazon, unless weeks go by and everyone else has BRP but me

[RosenMcStern]

I also pre-ordered it on amazon.co.uk. The point is that shipping from the US is very expensive and not always reliable. The FLGS is not an option for me as it would be Stratelibri, that has gone bankrupt and recently re-entered business, and the physical shops are still closed for maintenance, I think.

In any case we can get the PDF sooner than the book if amazon delivers late. I need both.

[Fergo113]

I recieved an email yesterday saying that Chaosium has shipped my hardcopy pre-order of the BRP rulebook, so looks like the book is being shipped now.

Either that, or the gremlins have gotten back into the system over at Chaosium