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Old May 15th, 2008
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Another mistake is thinking that because a license sells well in one medium, it will translate to another and be equally successful.
I'm in absolute agreement on the points made on IP so far. But for the sake of completeness there is also the shock success of licensed properties in other media to consider.

Star Wars Action Figures
Star Wars Lego computer game
(Actually all of the Star Wars licensing which started the whole shebang)
PlayBoy selling goods emblazones with its logo to young women WTF saw that one coming?
etc

Maybe its time to dust off the April Fool of the 'My Little Pony' rpg and look at Rupert the Bear or Bob the Builder or Barney the Purple Dinosaur BRP supplements


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Maybe its time to dust off the April Fool of the 'My Little Pony' rpg and look at Rupert the Bear or Bob the Builder or Barney the Purple Dinosaur BRP supplements
This is really off-topic, but since it's about licensing and IPs...

I hope that WotC knows their market, and Hasbro theirs, but I was literally stupefied that they thought a My Little Pony RPG was cause for a joke.

I have a 16-month old daughter, and when she's a couple of years older, I fully intend on seeing if she's interested in playing some RPG-like games. I've got friends with kids and they thought that a MLP RPG would have been outstandingly cool.

How the world's largest RPG company can be owned by one of the world's largest toy manufacturers, and there be absolutely no cross-line development is beyond me.

If I were a WotC higher-up, I'd be looking at stuff like My Little Pony, Axis & Allies, HeroScape, Transformers, and GI Joe and wondering what games we could make out of those properties. Or I'd notice all of the IPs that Hasbro has the game rights to, such as The Simpsons or Disney, and see if something could be done with those.

But then, I've never figured out why WotC's never come up with a hybrid of D&D and Magic...
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Gee. Axis & Allies is one of the most stupid games I ever played, and I still play the open source version on my PC. Marketing guys are hard to understand.
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Vampire/World of Darkness > Anne Rice novels
Speaking along the horror lines, I'd personally not mind a supernatural/horror/urban fantasy style game involving playable vampires, werewolves etc. I think that NWoD has moved too far away from where most modern media have taken the vampire mythos. Anne Rice stuff was great, in her day, and I love characters with tragedy and pathos... but the more modern depiction of vampires in media are in things like Blade and Underworld, or TV shows like Moonlight and Blood Ties and Angel are essentially ACTION shows. NWoD has done everything it can to kill the 'vampires are cool' which was part of the great attraction of Masquerade.

I don't know how viable that market is, but I do know that WW lost a /huge/ amount of customers with the shift. I suppose the question would be creating something unique enough to stand on its own.
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When my daughter, who is 22 now, was only 7 or so years old, I had her create a character for SJGs Toon role playing game. We played a few adventures and she loved it. I still have her character sheet all filled out in her hand writing with her little puppy sketch.

Later on, when she was in her early teens she picked up the Sailor Moon RPG.

Your right, it would be a great idea to capture that market at an early age. Unfortunately, it really would take the big boys like WOTC/Hasbro to be able to get the exposure to do it.

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This is really off-topic, but since it's about licensing and IPs...

I hope that WotC knows their market, and Hasbro theirs, but I was literally stupefied that they thought a My Little Pony RPG was cause for a joke.

I have a 16-month old daughter, and when she's a couple of years older, I fully intend on seeing if she's interested in playing some RPG-like games. I've got friends with kids and they thought that a MLP RPG would have been outstandingly cool.

How the world's largest RPG company can be owned by one of the world's largest toy manufacturers, and there be absolutely no cross-line development is beyond me.

If I were a WotC higher-up, I'd be looking at stuff like My Little Pony, Axis & Allies, HeroScape, Transformers, and GI Joe and wondering what games we could make out of those properties. Or I'd notice all of the IPs that Hasbro has the game rights to, such as The Simpsons or Disney, and see if something could be done with those.

But then, I've never figured out why WotC's never come up with a hybrid of D&D and Magic...
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Hmm, so currently (as of 457 votes), we have:

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  • Fantasy 99 / 21 %
  • Historical 55 / 12 %
  • Horror 64 / 14 %
  • Post Apocalypse 80 / 17 %
  • Pulp 51 / 11 %
  • Science Fiction 103 / 22 %
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SF has pulled back out in front (by a narrow margin), and SF / Fantasy continue to head the field by some margin. Although Post Apocalypse has surged back ahead of Horror again...

Interesting. I must confess I assumed that Fantasy would lead the field easily, with SF/PA second spot and Pulp / Horror and Historical brining up the rear...

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Interesting. I must confess I assumed that Fantasy would lead the field easily, with SF/PA second spot and Pulp / Horror and Historical brining up the rear...
Hmm... I would have expected the same. But then, I am always a little suspicious when polls run neck-and-neck for so long anyway... Given that it's not too difficult to multiple vote on the poll, I'd be wary of attributing *too* much to the results! :-D

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Hmm... I would have expected the same. But then, I am always a little suspicious when polls run neck-and-neck for so long anyway... Given that it's not too difficult to multiple vote on the poll, I'd be wary of attributing *too* much to the results! :-D

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Sarah
That's possible but also realize there is a bunch of us that are sick of seeing just fantasy and horror suppliments for BRP and the realise of the core brp book is a golden opportunity to expand into those other fields.
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Dustin's posted a second part to the discussion about genre here.

They really should publicize that blog a bit better...
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I am really looking forward to a Science Fiction supplement for BRP, my copy
of Ringworld is beginning to show its age ...
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