A pitch for a shared world starting point

[Puck]

You asked about adding the the Green to the shared world. That of course would be great!

Would the Green be able to go onto the same Wiki with Portal and the rest of the shared world or would each contribution need its own? I am really kind of a dunce, 07% with computer skills and forum edicate (although I am hoping for an improvement roll soon).

[frogspawner]

Very good question. How's it gonna work, Mr Trifletraxor?

[Trifletraxor]

Originally Posted by Puck

Would the Green be able to go onto the same Wiki with Portal and the rest of the shared world or would each contribution need its own?

Originally Posted by frogspawner

Very good question. How's it gonna work, Mr Trifletraxor?

The SharedWorld will have one wiki (which I have opened now). All what we produce there will fall under the license specified in the first article.

For the GatedWorlds I am not sure. If the creator of the world wants full control, tehn maybe an own folder in the download section would be better. If he/she wants to share it like the SharedWorld will be shared, where everyone can add to it, then a wiki for each of those will be in order too.

SGL.

[Trifletraxor]

Maybe a GatedWorlds Wiki is in order too, for the whole project I mean, coordinating interactions btw. the worlds and stuff. I'm open for suggestions.

SGL.

[frogspawner]

Originally Posted by Trifletraxor

For the GatedWorlds I am not sure. If the creator of the world wants full control, tehn maybe an own folder in the download section would be better. If he/she wants to share it like the SharedWorld will be shared, where everyone can add to it, then a wiki for each of those will be in order too.

I think the main idea with GateWorlds is that other people are invited to contribute to them. The author doesn't have to accept contributions he doesn't like, but rejected contributors would be free to copy the original world, and publish it again with their additions (so long as it's marked "variation of X's world"). Downloads seem to fit that model better - unless you can restrict who can update a wiki? Or maybe GateWorld wiki's could have an "unapproved" section?

I also think it's important to measure the popularity of the various worlds. Download-counts lend themselves to that quite simply, but might not reflect which worlds are actually liked/used. Maybe regular polls?

[rust]

While I would have no problems at all if others would copy my world's material
and change it in any way they like, I would find it difficult to accept if they
would make changes to my "original" material, which is the "canonical" material
on my world for "my" players.
This could force me to work with (and remember) at least two different ver-
sions of my world, the one in the wiki and the "true" one at home, and this
could become quite unnerving, I think.

[frogspawner]

The method I was describing is intended to do just that - give original authors the final word over what is canon in their world. Do you think it fails in some way?

[rust]

Not at all, I just wanted to explain from my point of view why I would appre-
ciate the kind of solution you proposed.

[frogspawner]

Thank you very much!

[Puck]

I think the main idea with GateWorlds is that other people are invited to contribute to them. The author doesn't have to accept contributions he doesn't like, but rejected contributors would be free to copy the original world, and publish it again with their additions (so long as it's marked "variation of X's world"). Downloads seem to fit that model better - unless you can restrict who can update a wiki? Or maybe GateWorld wiki's could have an "unapproved" section?

Sounds like an excellent option to me.

I was kind of hoping that the Green would be easily adapted for other gamer's ideas and worlds; kind of like a kirby vacum cleaner with different attachments. There would be the base idea and then people could pick and choose which parts they like, cut it up and add it to their world. I planned on writing it as a fantasy world, but was hoping I could put the purely fantasty stuff in one section that could be cut out(not sure if I can really do this properly though). One could cut the fantasy part out and add the Sci Fi adaptation. People could add articles of where the Green would fit into the shared world, their world, or add adaptations of their own. For instance Atgxtg's( How do you pronounce that) Nivenesque ideas could just port the Green into a corner of the ship/ringworld/Dyson's spere.

What would really be nice is a place for contributing writers to add campaigns, senario's and particularly mini-adventures that people could add to each world. This is were authors could really help each other out I think.

Also a place where contributers could write and post personalities and npc's like the Borderlands encounter book, Runemasters, or Foes and Fangs. I have always been disappointed that there was not more of this on the MRQ Wiki. There could also be a place for additional societies, cults, fantastic, legendary items and whatnot.

Another neat thing would be a rumors thread about what is going on in each setting. People could add to this to their hearts content, Dm's could peruse the list and have a handful of rumors to throw about every time the characters go to the watering hole or meet people on the road.

(If you havn't noticed yet I was thumbing through Griffin Mountain this morning).

It would be very nice for the author to control the riens on what is cannon though.

On that note It would be nice to see to see a semi-private forum where writers could suggest stuff to one another or have solid, honest editing help with one anothers work. A place where rough drafts, propositions, and lists of ideas could be slung around before the generaly public cuts into them. I for one have the weeds of stupid ideas growing up with the hopfully bountiful crops of good ones and would love a place to ask just a few people what they think before I put them in stone. I used to write scripts and do voice acting for computer game mods. Each mod had a private forum where contibuters and the heads of various mods could mess with ideas and show each other their work before they released it. It was a wonderful tool that helped to hone the edge and knock out many of the chinks.

Well, I hope this doesn't sound too demanding or anything, I really do not know what is possible with Wiki's or what anyone else is really imagining. I am just kind of offering up ideas.