BRP SIZ Table(Metric Corrected)

[RosenMcStern]

The problem is: what is the correct value in the original table? The metric tons or the british tons?

[Atgxtg]

The problem is: what is the correct value in the original table? The metric tons or the british tons?

The British tons. Three reasons:


1) The British values progress normally, while the metric values for SIZ 64 (6455-7000 kg) and SIZ 72 (6.4-7 mt) are basically the same. So either every SIZ value between 64 and 72 has the same mass or the metric values are off.

2) The rules specially state that for SIZ 330+ the SIZ value is 1/10th the weight in short tons. The metric value listed, 1500 metric tons is about half what it should be to correlate with 3300 short tons.

3) I asked Jason, and he said to assume the English measurements are correct.

[RosenMcStern]

3) I asked Jason, and he said to assume the English measurements are correct.

Well, point 3) was enough to persuade me :lol:

I will be eternally grateful to you for this, atgxtg. I will be running a mecha game at Tentacles, and the SIZ values in the mecha range are really important for that kind of game. I'll have to rewrite all the stats, but it is worth doing it.

[Atgxtg]

Well, point 3) was enough to persuade me :lol:

I will be eternally grateful to you for this, atgxtg. I will be running a mecha game at Tentacles, and the SIZ values in the mecha range are really important for that kind of game. I'll have to rewrite all the stats, but it is worth doing it.

Thanks. Sorry about the rewrite.
If it is any consolation, II'm in the same boat. You see, the way I spotted the error. I was working on my vhecile and spaceship rules and was getting the "wrong" speed answers when I switched from metric to English (smaller SISZ scores meant faster vehciles). I ended up with a headache at 3:30 AM wondering if I had forgotten how to do math. It wasn't unitl the next day that I looked closely at the table, then I pulled out a copy of Call of Cthulhu and discovered it had the same bug, and then asked someone else to double check it for me, as I began to doubt if I knew what a ton/tonne was.


If it would help, I have a table with values for all SIZ scores from 1 up to 330. I need to tweak it a little to match up perfectly, but it is fairly close (within a lb/kg/ton/mt or two).

If you want, I could email it to you, and even add in conversion from old metric SIZ to new.

Least I could do, since I messed up all your mecha.

[Agentorange]

If it would help, I have a table with values for all SIZ scores from 1 up to 330. I need to tweak it a little to match up perfectly, but it is fairly close (within a lb/kg/ton/mt or two).

If you want, I could email it to you, and even add in conversion from old metric SIZ to new.

Why not stick it up in the downloads section under Resources ? It might come in handy for lots of folk

[rust]

Why not stick up in the downloads section under Resources ? It might come in handy for lots of folk

Yep, and also in the Errata in the Wiki.

[Mechashef]

Thanks for the great work.

I second the request to put your Siz table in the downloads section and (or at least a reference to it) in the Wiki.