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    Question Stormbringer 1st ed - mentioning Steve Perrin's Gateway Bestiary

    Greetings,

    My first post here on the forum (huzzah!). Some time ago I won a copy of the boxed 1st ed Stormbringer rpg on Ebay in very, very good condition (thin box set in good condition with no rips or tears, rulesbook with no stains or damage, all inserts accounted for including a well kept catalog from Chaosium back in the day. Unfortunately, no dice).

    Stormbringer was my first actual purchased rpg, specifically the Games Workshop released hardcover edition. As a voracious reader of the Elric books back in school, I had to have this. I played this game obsessively even after the binding fell apart.

    Anyway, this box set has a place of pride on my book shelf along with its various supplements. Every now and then I have a flick through the book, when a section of the rules caught my eye; As fun as the game is, the content of natural creature opponents was rather slim and there was a passage mentioning of being able to use Steve's Gateway Bestiary to add extra beasties.

    I've never actually seen this book so I have to ask:

    1. What was the Gateway Bestiary? A supplement for Runequest?
    2. As it doesn't seem to be in print, could I use the pdfs of "All the World's Monsters" from Chaosium's site to use as more creatures in the game instead?

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    Welcome to the forums!

    I do not have Gateway Bestiary, nor do I have much knowledge of All the World's Monsters. I do share a love of the old Stormbringer game (though my version was the Whelan cover, 3rd?). Something about merging BRP and Ken St. Andre makes this world a better place to live in.
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    I went and googled for the Gateway Bestiary after posting this, and I flubbed on the author; It was actually Sandy Petersen who did it, not Steve. Anycase there look's like a copy or two on Amazon so I may get it just to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaot View Post
    Welcome to the forums!

    I do not have Gateway Bestiary, nor do I have much knowledge of All the World's Monsters. I do share a love of the old Stormbringer game (though my version was the Whelan cover, 3rd?). Something about merging BRP and Ken St. Andre makes this world a better place to live in.
    Technically, 3rd edition is the GW hardcover. 4th is the Whelan cover, and that was quite a coup for Magic World's Ben Monroe (John B. Monroe in the 4th edition credits). Ben was able to get permission to use the Whelan piece, and he was the one who tweaked the demon summoning/creation rules (if you look closely, they are based on the Superworld Power system).

    I love Stormbringer, and pretty much own a copy of everything - I have the thick 1st edition revised boxed set, all the original 1st/2nd edition supplements and scenarios, the 3rd edition GW hardcover, 4th edition and all supplements, Elric! and all supplements, and 5th edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimgeth View Post
    Greetings,
    I've never actually seen this book so I have to ask:

    1. What was the Gateway Bestiary? A supplement for Runequest?
    2. As it doesn't seem to be in print, could I use the pdfs of "All the World's Monsters" from Chaosium's site to use as more creatures in the game instead?
    1. Yes the GB was a supplement for RQ. Some of the monster stats are more readily available elsewhere, and have been updated, if you're interested, there is a list of the creatures in the book here: The Gateway Bestiary - Acaeum
    2. All the World's Monsters has conversion notes for RQ but aren't in normal BRP stats. You would probably be better off buying more modern supplements either for RQ or BRP.
    Last edited by Conrad; July 1st, 2013 at 01:39.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagabond View Post
    Technically, 3rd edition is the GW hardcover.
    I can never keep early Stormbringer editions straight. If you asked me which was chaos value and which was elan I would have to take a shot in the dark.

    I did know about zomben's hand in demons, not about the cover though. Very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
    2. All the World's Monsters has conversion notes for RQ but aren't in normal BRP stats. You would probably be better off buying more modern supplements either for RQ or BRP.
    Yes, many of the creatures in Gateway Bestiary have been reprinted for RQ3/CoC/BRP.

    I can't think of any reason to buy All the World's Monsters, to be honest. I bought a copy years ago and regretted it as soon as I saw it.
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    All the World's Monsters was a 3-volume collection of D&D/AD&D monsters created by various people at the the dawn of the era. The aim was originally what it says on the tin, but Chaosium quickly realised that this RPG thing was growing faster than anyone could keep up with: "We originally conceived it to include every monster created by players to add to games such as Dungeons & Dragons, Tunnels & Trolls, and the Arduin Grimoire. We rapidly realized we couldn't do it." As Conrad points out there are conversion notes, you can find those in volume .

    The Gateway Bestiary is an undeservedly obscure tome that includes lots of useful creatures in RQ2 format. Here's the index:

    GIANT ARTHROPODS
    Giant Ants
    Assassin Bugs
    Giant Centipedes
    Giant Crabs
    Guard Beetles
    Peripati
    Giant Scorpions
    Giant Spiders
    Stingworms
    Giant Termites
    Vinegaroons
    Giant Ticks
    Giant Wasps

    LEGENDARY BEINGS
    Amphisbonae
    Arguses
    Catoblepases
    Fauns
    Gorgons
    Harpies
    Hippogriffs
    Hydrae
    Lesser Hydrae
    Lamiae
    Rocs
    Satyrs
    Sphinxes

    CELTIC HORRORS
    Barguests
    Brollachans
    Fachans
    Kelpies
    Nuckelavees
    Redcaps
    Stoorworms
    Water-Leapers
    Voughs

    H. P. LOVECRAFT CREATIONS
    Deep Ones
    Great Race
    Mi-Gos
    Nightgaunts
    Old Ones
    Shoggoths
    Spawn of Yog-Sothoth

    NATURAL ANIMALS
    Apes
    Bears
    Big Cats
    Birds
    Canines
    Crocodiles
    Dolphins
    Pachyderms
    Pythons
    Giant Squids

    DINOSAURS
    Sauropods
    Carnosaurs
    Hadrasaurs
    Ceratopsians
    Anklyosaurs and Stegosaurs

    MISCELLANEOUS TYPES
    Anthrophages
    Bandersnatches
    Chonchons
    Gapers
    Jabberwocks
    Headhangers
    Jubjub Birds
    Mummies
    Shark-Men
    Wraiths

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    Thanks all for the info. The more I hear about this, the more I want that Bestiary; it would be great if it could be released again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brimgeth View Post
    The more I hear about this, the more I want that Bestiary; it would be great if it could be released again.
    I'm sure it could be, if Chaosium was interested. There's nothing trademarked in there.

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